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# Cat-v

Cat-v.org (accessible at http://cat-v.org) is a minimalist hacker website describing itself as a random contrarian insurgent organization which promotes critical thinking, free speech, examines technology from minimalist point of view, opposes orthodoxy and talks about wider context of technology such as politics, society and philosophy; the site hosts a few "subsites", e.g. those related to Plan 9 OS and Go language, however most famous is its encyclopedia of things considered harmful (http://harmful.cat-v.org/). The whole site, especially the "harmful" section (which was the first one), revolves around the phrase "considered harmful" -- this is basically a computer science academic meme that started with a 1968 paper named "Go To Statement Considered Harmful" which was later followed by dozens of similarly named articles; cat-v is taking this to the next level by building a whole website about all things considered harmful. The name of the site itself comes from Rob Pike's 1983 presentation "UNIX Style, or cat -v Considered Harmful" that criticized the `-v` flag of the Unix cat program as such flag, strictly speaking, violates the Unix philosophy (cat should only concatenate files, the flag makes it do something that should rather be done by another program). Though maybe coincidental, the name is also similar to CatB (a short for famous hacker essay/book Cathedral and Bazaar). The site is very nice, made in plain HTML minimalist style, working with HTTP and besides others contains a ton of great quotes on every topic, there is also an IRC, mailing list and a blog.

The section "considered harmful" contains many things, even quite general ones, probably to provoke thought -- one should likely not see a thing present on the list as something we have to always necessarily get rid of -- though many times we should! -- sometimes we just may think about how to improve the thing or minimize its negative impact; try to think of harmful things like "things that suck"; everything sucks, some things just suck less. Among things listed under the harmful section are besides others all software, OOP, GNU, Linux, C++, dynamic linking, Java, XML, vim, Emacs, GPL (one recommended alternative being CC0 instead), Perl, standards, Sweden, gay marriage, marriage, children, words, intellectual property, religion, science, minimum wage, the Avatar movie, Wikileaks, people, economics, global warming scaremongering, security theater etc.

Cat-v has existed since at least 2005 (according to Internet Archive) and was started by Uriel M. Pereira, a minimalist hacker who greatly contributed to a lot of suckless software and who committed suicide in 2012. Suckless and cat-v seem to be pretty close -- suckless.org has its own section of harmful things called simply "sucks".

From LRS point of view cat-v is based in great many ways, mainly its focus on the big picture and wider context or technology, promotion of minimalism, freedom of speech and thinking and anti-orthodoxy -- it is not a soyboy site, good quality sites without SJWery are greatly appreciated. However we would also find disagreements e.g. on Plan 9 and Go, which we consider greatly harmful. And of course some politics etc.

## See Also

- suckless

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